• Daniel

    What a rather poor message being sent by the refusal to enforce a clear and important safety rule. As if they could not have had someone spend the last couple of hours watching and re-watching the footage of the crossing to determine who broke the rules. If one or two of them got away with it, that’s not that big a deal. The message would still have been clear; if you get caught braking such a significant rule, you will be DQ’d. Instead, the message was that it is OK to break the rule if others do as well. The idea of “let’s not punish riders when heaps are doing it anyway; that would distract from the romanticism of the sport” is not an idea that has worked out well in the past

    • Robert Merkel

      I wonder, given the inability to identify individual riders, could some heavy fines be handed out to their teams?

      In future, have a volunteer with a GoPro on a tripod at each crossing.

      • thomasrdotorg

        Thanks for beating me to it! A GoPro at 60fps would have every number and rider as clear as you need.

        • Dave

          In motorsport this sort of person is called a ‘judge of fact’ and they can often be found at chicanes or pit lane entrances. Could be a useful concept to import into cycling.

    • Arfy

      UCI seem to have an attitude of “enforcement if we feel like it” to their rules. Most sporting codes are pretty clear on their rules, and come down hard and consistently if they’re broken. Not the UCI though, it makes a joke of having rules in the first place.

    • http://www.classixracing.com fabio

      Wonder how Hoste, Van Petegem, and Gusev (who placed 2-4 in 2006 and subsequently DQ’ed) feel about this?

      • Michele

        I know it’s not right - but if I remember correctly in that instance those 3 gained a time advantage that couldn’t be neutralised before they reached the velodrome (it happened in last 20 kms or so).

        Doesn’t excuse last night. But it’s slighty different.

        • http://www.classixracing.com fabio

          That’s true, it was as crossing with 10km left and Boonen came in later for “2nd”.

    • The Rabbit

      I wonder if the reaction from race director Gouvenou and his team at ASO would have been any different if the French National Champion was not implicated. In any case the behaviour of the riders was inexcusable and it’s pathetic of the UCI to not DQ them.

      • Michele

        The problem is unless you can tell who EVERYONE is, then it’s a little unfair to just DQ those who are easy to identify like Démare.

        Looked like there were a couple of SKY riders involved. Or were they from Team Giant? I guess that’s one bonus in having a lot of black in your kit.

        The GPS technology is available now to place some form of beacon on each rider (not bike) and track them accurately. You’d be able to use telemetry to determine who stopped and who diced with death.

        • Daniel

          It would surprise me greatly if, with enough time and discussions with the teams, 80%+ of those involved could not be identified. It seems very much like they just did not want to face the possibility that they would have to DQ major players or delay the presentation.

          I don’t think it’s unfair to say that unless you can punish all you should punish none. Surely the last rider to go through was just taking the piss? And in any event, it sometimes must be justified to put aside fairness in place of safety. If they had DQ’d twenty riders, I can guarantee that nobody would be pulling that stunt again, particularly given that it was useless in light of the race being neutralised.

          • Michele

            Well they did DS 3 riders just a few years ago - 2 of them were podium ‘finishers’.

            That hasn’t prove to be a deterrent.

            I agree with you - they should all be DS.

            Hypothetical:
            Let’s say 25 of the 30 riders are identified and they are all promptly DS.

            One of the riders isn’t Degenkolb, but it’s determined his team mate Bert de Backer was. He is promptly DSQ.

            One could argue Degenkolb’s win is now compromised - especially l if no Etixx riders were caught up at the crossing. Who could say for certain Degenkolb would’ve won if De Backer was DS immediately after the incident.

            Since those 30 riders broke the rules but were still able to finish the race, Paris-Roubaix has been compromised.

            • Daniel

              Oh for sure that’s an issue. As soon as you start DQing people you get big questions over what could have been. It was a great finish and I don’t think people wanted to be seen to be ruining that. It’s like the on-bike slap fest at the Giro (I think) last year; the two involved weren’t DQ’d for hours and it could have changed the race if they had been pulled out earlier.
              Something is better than nothing. Maybe now the best option is to fine the teams per rider involved (lot easier to identify), but there would need to be a rule for that; there are enough problems in cycling with “figure it out as you go along” (Stelvio). At the moment, there is a very clear rule of disqualification. In the absence of something better, they should exercise that power retrospectively.

              • Dave

                DQ those who come forward and fess up, but those who get caught on video and don’t fess up should get DQ’s from both Roubaix and the next WorldTour race where they sign on at the start line.

      • Dave

        That stripy jersey has got to be good for SOMETHING every now and then!

    • jules

      I agree it sends a poor msg. what scares me the most is the possibility of pro riders being squashed by the TGV. I think they need to look at this more and put in a back-up loop on the course or something if the riders are heading towards the crossing at the same time as the train. surely they can do better than just asking them to wait at the boom gates?

      • Michele

        It’s too hard Jules. Having ridden the sportiv, I was amazed how many railroad crossings there were.

        Basically from the Forest onwards there is a good half dozen. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same line either: as the route zig zags to get these sectors in.

        Any back up look might mean missing a sector of pave. Fans on roadside might not appreciate that. :-)

        • jules

          I haven’t ridden it so take my comments with a grain of salt, but I didn’t mean an alternative route - I meant more a spare loop that would put the riders back onto the ‘main’ course, but just occupy them for 10 minutes or so for the train to pass. It may be too complicated..

          • Michele

            It’s far too complicated for me. :-)

            Shame is this incident is taking the limelight off of Degenkolb, who rode a very good race, and was a deserved winner.

          • Dave

            How about just have them obey the rules, but allow them to go back to their team cars while they wait (without penalty for going backwards on the course) so it doubles as a feed station?

            Or coordinate to keep the crossing open for the peleton to go through, as is done at the Tour Down Under at least a couple of times each year.

      • a different ben

        I once saw the aftermath of a herd of veal calves meeting a fast train — it was very messy. I would much prefer to see a bunch of DQs than something similar happen to people.

    • JBS

      Agree its extremely poor. What’s the point of a rule if it isn’t enforced.

      Plus in this case, not enforcing the rule deprived the fans of seeing one last monumental bike throw by Wiggins when he gets DQ’d (he was the Sky rider nearly getting decapitated by the boom gate).

      • Dave

        No commissaire would have been that brave.

    • Michael Sproul

      If the UCI/race organiser made it clear they’d neutralise the race in the event of a train crossing there’d be no reason for riders to take the risk, it’s clear the riders thought the race would carry on without them and in the heat of the moment smashed on through. Rules should be upheld and DQ’s handed out but IMO you need to remove that “oh shit I’m getting dropped because of this” feeling.

  • xponti

    Woohoo, Pool Boy won Flanders. I guess he can give up his day job on the Pool Vacuum now…..Bow Wow Chicka Bow Wow….

  • Michele

    U23 Flanders podium photo - imagine what people will think when they come across that in some archives in 100 years time from now???

    That is a classic.

  • Steel

    Great finish to Roubaix. As much as it was amazing to see Boonen and Fabu solo to wins in recent years, I enjoyed the bunch sprint around the velodrome. Not sure why Stybar didn’t try something further from the line though, although when you’ve ridden 257 km over those roads, he’s probably just happy to finish.

    Great ride by Degenkolb. I was surprised he had so much left in the tank after bridging to GVA’s breakaway. Must be in some epic form.

    Giant Alpecin now arguably have the best sprinter in road cycling and the best finisher on flat, but difficult stages. Not bad for a team who were saved by a last minutes sponsorship a couple of years ago.

  • Andy Logan

    Great ride by Deggs, didnt just sit in and wait for the bunch kick. Rode across and didnt panic and then dispatched them with ease, tbh I am not sure there would of been more Etixx could of done. Unfortunately Stybar bridging up put the pressure on them to attack the bunch, but he dragged 3 other guys with him to nulify the attacks so that didnt work out, plus they only had 3km to go once Stybar had bridged across.

    Great win imo, as good as Kristoff Flanders win, i loved both. I loved how they both committed and were willing to lose it all. That to me seems to be biggest difference this year, some riders have been prepared to play their hand and come up empty, while others have been happy to settle for 2nd or 3rd and sit on wheels and look for others to do the work. The people that have committed have come up Trumps, Kristoff, Deggs, Paolini, Thomas and even Stannard for Omloop, although he did sit on the wheels for 40km, he took the opportunity to attack when he did well and that as we know what that.

    As for the Bridge crossing, poor decision really. You could tell they were going to brush that under the carpet.

    • Michele

      I was really impressed with his brief post-race interview. I liked how he said he needed to ‘invest’ in the race.

      There I was thinking all he had to do was stay with the front bunch and win it in a sprint. As he said in the interview he came second last year in those circumstances. Who’s to say someone wouldn’t got off the front in the closing kms?

      Loved how he took the race on and was duly rewarded. And there was a similarity in the way both he and Kristoff went about it.

      I agree with your comments re: Etixx. I think they played their cards as well as they could. I was hoping Stybar [that’s Stee-bar, not Sty-bar SBS, Phil and Paul et al.] could get across quicker. Might have given him a couple of more kms to catch his breathe and go again.

      Was a little bit miffed by Wiggo’s tactics. Not sure why he went then. An effort like that with 10 kms to go might have been more worthwhile. Can’t remember which was the wind was blowing in the run into Roubaix after the Gruson pave.

      The cobbled classics weren’t necessarily ‘classics’ in the truest sense; but so happy to see 2 first time winners for both races.

  • Bracksy

    Can someone explain this sudden influx of cycling Instagram photos that are taken whilst riders are riding? If we consider ourselves as vehicles, why are we using a mobile phone whilst riding? If it were a driver using a mobile phone, good lord, the driver would be blasted left right and centre. Talk about hypocrites…

    • Michele

      I blame Kim Kardashian.

      • Dave

        Cyclists were narcissists long before KK, only now they have smartphones.