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  • Neil

    Kudos to UHC for the concussion protocol. Good to see this taken seriously.

  • Jeff

    Porte and Froome are both faster than Lance Armstrong? I thought one of the signs that there was less artificial enhancement in use these days was that current riders are slower than Armstrong, Pantani etc . Must be those new-fangled electric gears making the difference I guess …

    • jules

      It’s confusing isn’t it? Mind you in Tyler H’s book he describes Lance turning up from off-season with bulk upper body muscle and carrying a lot of weight. While it’s the clear the implication was the doping benefit compensated for that, he (Hamilton) gave the impression of what in some ways was pretty crude preparation by Lance. I find it believable that modern sports science has clawed back some of the gains lost to anti-doping, but still..

      • Michele

        So stop casting aspersions on SKY Jules. Totally unfair.

        Sure, they may have employed - naively - some riders / support staff with dodger, I mean dodgy backgrounds. But they’re not going to dope are they! :)

        Love this quote by Porte:

        “That would have been me,” [In regards to who broke Froome’s record], Porte told Cycling Weekly after winning Paris-Nice for a second time last weekend. “I don’t think anyone is going to beat that.”

        • jules

          i find it hard to believe Sky or its (at least its key) riders are doping. but i write that, then I think of how many times previously we’ve all been disappointed.

          • Michele

            Too right. In all seriousness, nothing will surprise me anymore.

            I don’t get disappointed anymore Jules. I’ve just set the bar extremely low.

            • Gavin Adkins

              Totally agree. Over the last 20+ years of following road racing I have become a bit numb to the doping. Personally, I found O’Grady’s confession to be particularly galling, but since then it only really annoys me if the rider had previously been adamant about being clean.

        • Dave

          Of course they aren’t doping. Sky riders only get caught just AFTER leaving the team.

        • Cynic

          You’re not a doper if you’re a good bloke though.
          Consider Jens Voigt. Won yellow, drove the front of the bunch for years, rode like a monster all against the worst dopers in the sport. Robbie McEwen too. Won green jerseys against all those doping sprinters.
          Everyone else from that era has come out and confessed or been named or busted. Everyone they beat, names like Zabel, Cippolini, Beloki, Simeoni, Bettini, Virenque, Kloden, Ullrich, Rasmussen, Pozzato and Basso all have. Even Stuey O even dribbled out something that looked vaguely like a confession.
          Not Jens or Robbie, so not only are they good blokes but they were phenomenal athletes to win clean.
          Just buy the T shirt and lap up the “shut up legs” myth.

        • Bob

          its more than that…Tyler said that he would prefer (for performance reasons) to lose a kg than to gain (i cant remember the exact number) in hematocrit level.

          It frustrates me when people think that increased performance in the peloton = doping. It might, but it seems that the more obvious answer is that previously the peloton was nowhere near as professional in training as today (except in their approach to doping). They say doping gave you that extra 5%, im pretty sure just sky’s marginal gains alone - let alone the barometric chambers, dieticians and mountain top training camps that everyone does - will exceed that 5%

      • Ben

        I’m sure some fanatic will do/or has done a w/kg calc but rumors were that Richie is down around 59kg which is pretty exceptional, compared to Lance at at least 10kg more (or even 15kg)

        • Ben

          Rough calc at 59kg has him climbing at around 6.9w/kg if he is on a UCI approved bike.

          • 900Aero

            It’ll be a sad day if it ever turns out Richie is on the juice. But I guess thats what another generation said about Stuey.

    • Frank

      Well isn’t it ironic then that two Sky riders have beaten Lance … all that jazz about incremental gains …

      • Dave

        One of whom was previously besties with Bjarne Riis, Fränk Schleck and Alberto Contador.

    • Bex

      What about bike & gear weight? surely these days the lads are riding up with less equipment weight than 1999. And would training technology bring about that much improvement?… or maybe it was just a really windy day.

      • Robert Merkel

        There’s a 6.8kg minimum weight limit for all bikes, which was actually brought in in 1999. If anything, Armstrong’s bike might have been lighter.

        Losses from drivetrain friction might have reduced marginally, but they are very low anyway. Tyre rolling resistance might also have improved a little. The bikes are definitely more aerodynamic today, but mountain climbing is where this matters least. The effect is small but real; my guess is “not enough to make that much difference”.

        Other possibilities include that they’re not measuring from exactly the same points; also, that Armstrong’s time was when he wasn’t in superhuman form.

        Neither Froome nor Porte have matched the known doped riders of the 1990s and early 2000s on long climbs in race conditions. Doesn’t make them clean, of course, but if they were that’s when eyebrows would really be going up.

    • Mark

      Isn’t it sad that in the sport we all love (I assume you all like cycling as you are reading and posting on a cycling website), that whenever a record is broken or a great attack is made that you think the rider must be doping. There never seems to be the respect for the effort that the record / attack would require, nor is there any regard of how good some of these riders are. I hope you all watch other sports (100m running) with the same cynical approach. Move on, and help make this sport better by showing support for monumental efforts like Ritchie’s. If you continue to be sceptical about everything in this sport, you and all others that continually bring up doping will just make sure that pro riders will never ever share any data with the general public in fear that they will be branded a doper. I want to know how fast these riders are and how they compare to each other, it is the same reason that makes Strava such a popular application, that drive to beat and compare yourself with thousands of others. Ritchie 4 the Giro 2015.

  • Frank

    I can’t see 1x drivetrains taking hold in road racing. In XC and CX, riders can compensate for the bigger jump between cogs over the (relatively) shorter courses. In a race at UCI level over hundreds of kilometres with long flat sections and long climbs, a jump of more than 10% between cogs means a rider can’t find the right cadence, and their pedalling style and power output suffers.

  • Simon

    Are single chain-rings a legal option for criterium races? If I had a dedicated crit bike this would be ideal.

  • Ian

    The video about Giovanni Jimenez Ocampo is excellent - well worth watching.

  • Gee

    Incremental gains? Sports science? Lighter equipment? We are talking about an almost 4% improvement on the best time of a guy that doped his way to 7 TDF victories, against the similarly juiced Pantani, Ullrich etc.

    Again, and as is always the case, there is a growing amount of circumstantial evidence that suggests doping: times that are better than dopers; bizarre and massive single day losses of form (Landis, Hamilton, Armstrong); extremely long periods at peak form etc.

    Sky, Porte and Froome are highly suspicious.

    What is the name of Porte’s dog? Just asking.

    • Mark

      You must believe in the Yeti too. It appears you don’t need much evidence to jump onto conspiracies.

      • Gee

        New to the sport? Recently thrown out your Livestrong wristband? If the Yeti had this level of parallel data the that furry, fat headed, fifteen foot fella would not be an urban myth.

        In so many of the recent cases we have had circumstantial evidence that flagged suspicion. In most cases parochialism, pseudo science or the benefit of the doubt was given. Yet there we were with a paper full of flawed science ‘proving’ Lance was a physiological anomaly; a certificate that the cortisone in his system was on a therapeutic exemption; a testimony that Valverde had been guided to a doctor for a genetically engineered blood bag, but never doped he was just that good he could hang with the dopers; that Contador ate a bad steak that had been transported 900+ km for his discerning palate, all those other times he beat those dopers clean; that Frank and/or Andy Schleck needed that gynaecologist to look into their/his labial majoris?!

        So Sky, Porte, Froome just diet harder, train harder and get incremental gains that’s made them faster than the most juiced peletons on the planet on an ITT climb.

        As I said increasing amounts of circumstantial evidence are highly suspicious.

    • Cervel-low

      Wow, you very succinctly proved the point made by Bob, above LOL

      • Gee

        Carvel-low, unfortunately you are right. As Bob points out, I see this andthink juice gear. Either front end as PEDs or back end cortico’s steroids for weight loss.

  • Anon N + 1

    I read Mr. Reilly’s article setting our reasons for not registering bicycles and found it weak. It makes a number of claims that I believe are not correct.
    1. He says “No official support for registering bikes.” Maybe in Australia. I registered my bikes with the police in various cities in California. While frequently ignored and poorly enforced, it was mandatory. When I was a kid, having had the bike registered allowed me to get it back when it was stolen, taken for a joy ride and abandoned (which is where the patrolman found it)
    2. Car drivers don’t pay for the road. In most states in the U.S., the gasoline tax is earmarked for road building and maintenance. So drivers DO pay at least part of the cost of the roads.
    3. Registration programs are expensive. See 1. It didn’t cost much to register my bikes. In Japan it is free and it can be done at a police station.
    4. There is confusion here between registering bikes and registering cyclists. These are separate issues and should be evaluated separately.
    5. Cyclists pay in other ways. So what? Is registration a good idea or not.
    6. It would disproportionally affect the poor. See 1. I could afford it as a kid.
    7. Discourage people from cycling. Maybe. Just make it easy to register. Are we talking about people or bikes? Anyway, just make it easy.
    8. Not dangerous. So what? You need to get a fishing license don’t you?
    9. Registering kids bikes in not a bad idea. As I said, I got my stolen bike back as a kid in part because it was registered.
    10. Mounting problems. As a kid, it was a little metal plate over the rear brake. Other times, it was a sticker attached to the bike down by the bottom bracket. The bikes in the TDF all have a plate mounted under the saddle. At the ride for the public at the Tour Down Under, all the bikes have a chip mounted on their front fork (I admit this option would be fairly expensive)
    11. A vest mounted system. OK. the registered owner is responsible for the vest. Be careful about who you loan it to. When you travel and rent a car, you need to carry your license
    12. Cops can stop illegal activity anyway. True enough.
    13. Shouldn’t have to buy safety. OK Does it have other merits?
    14. It won’t save lives. OK, but does it have any other merits?
    15. Police won’t take a witnesses word. In some places GoPro evidence provided by road users has been used
    16. The running of red lights in not a big problem. Says you. The car drivers see it differently.
    `17. A historical argument. So what? Times and situations change. What once worked may no longer be effective.
    18. No national bike registration anywhere in the world. See 1 above. Plenty of localities have registration. I am reminded of my mother’s answer when I said “No one else has to do it.” She would say “But you do.”

    • Abdu

      Bollocks.
      Keep trying though.